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Post by hannah on Jan 27, 2008 11:47:41 GMT
Margie, I've gotta ask A. how do you know a pig has 30 minute orgasm B.do i detecta bit of envy C. can i have one if they can be sent thru the post Cheers Caveman
b) hell no I am female.....I would rather have multiples anytime. Bob will tell ya.....well he wont cos he is buzzing!!
c) Nah, the postie will nick it!! Lol... ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by charity on Jan 27, 2008 11:48:02 GMT
What good point ? .... I understand the white middle class point .... but the rest ... allah akbar |
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Post by tubepigeonvictim on Jan 27, 2008 11:58:14 GMT
Exactly, numpties!
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Post by victor55 on Jan 27, 2008 16:53:45 GMT
Yes and every German after the war wasnt a Nazi faced with it- the kindly ones will be screamin death to the infidels as well-dont kid yourself |
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Post by charity on Jan 27, 2008 17:49:32 GMT
I dont believe that every German was a nazi during the war.....and I dont believe every Muslim is an extremist. To paraphrase St Ignatius Loyola When the state is under attack all opposition is treason!
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Post by craigosm on Jan 27, 2008 17:53:46 GMT
Moderate muslim ....? ... whilst the imans preach jihad ... then WE are in trouble .... dont kid yersell .... ask the clergy ...
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Post by charity on Jan 27, 2008 18:27:59 GMT
Moderate muslim ....? ... whilst the imans preach jihad ... then WE are in trouble .... dont kid yersell .... ask the clergy ...
I wouldn't ask the clergy their opinion on anything of importance...The whole basis of organised religion (in any form) is the oppression of the working man/woman |
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Post by faitha on Jan 27, 2008 18:37:54 GMT
yer right enough there margie, one o' the swines bloody well went and married me tae ma first wife, withoot a bye your leave.
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Post by craigosm on Jan 27, 2008 18:54:19 GMT
Moderate muslim ....? ... whilst the imans preach jihad ... then WE are in trouble .... dont kid yersell .... ask the clergy ...
I wouldn't ask the clergy their opinion on anything of importance...The whole basis of organised religion (in any form) is the oppression of the working man/womanWhat do you think islam is then ? |
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Post by charity on Jan 27, 2008 18:56:14 GMT
I did say ALL organised religion, Creag  |
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Post by caveman on Jan 27, 2008 19:05:59 GMT
Ask the Clergy, that would be the organised religions of the west that have presided over more murder, mayhem,war and torture, the inquisition, the crusades, who do you think burned Isobel Goudie at the stake, and as for the head in the sand CD, at least I'll still try to think for myself, rather than follow mindlessly down the path of predjudice,paranoia and fear, look around Bush/Brown and before that Blair worry me way more than Osama Bin Laden ever did, we are all being manipulated to fear the islamic boogie man, and in the meantime our own governments are taking away our rights and freedoms on a daily basis, and if we disagree with anything we are impeding the fight against the "terrorists", here's the irony, our leaders are basic telling us that we must lose our freedoms to protect our liberties!!. Scary Times, just remember we're aw Jock Thomson's bairns
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Post by charity on Jan 27, 2008 19:07:25 GMT
Margie must not talk religion or football. Margie must not talk religion or football.Margie must not talk religion or footballMargie must not talk religion or football x 1000
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Post by craigosm on Jan 27, 2008 19:29:08 GMT
Ask the Clergy, that would be the organised religions of the west that have presided over more murder, mayhem,war and torture, the inquisition, the crusades, who do you think burned Isobel Goudie at the stake, and as for the head in the sand CD, at least I'll still try to think for myself, rather than follow mindlessly down the path of predjudice,paranoia and fear, look around Bush/Brown and before that Blair worry me way more than Osama Bin Laden ever did, we are all being manipulated to fear the islamic boogie man, and in the meantime our own governments are taking away our rights and freedoms on a daily basis, and if we disagree with anything we are impeding the fight against the "terrorists", here's the irony, our leaders are basic telling us that we must lose our freedoms to protect our liberties!!. Scary Times, just remember we're aw Jock Thomson's bairns The islamic boogie man is bigger than you think pal ... wake up .... |
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Post by charity on Jan 27, 2008 19:39:09 GMT
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Post by caveman on Jan 27, 2008 22:08:28 GMT
The Islamic Boogie man has killed in Great Britian 58 people, the IRA killed 3286, and we never had over 3500 new offences introduced to deal with them, and they were a lot harder to see coming than perhaps a person of middle eastern origin, I should know i was in the armed forces during the 70s and saw terrorism up close and personal, and one thing that i believe is that unless we stop being scared and start trying to make the world a better place for everyone, no-one excluded, then we're all fooked every one,we are living in an era where the politics of fear are preached, the kind of politics that promote hatred, fear and distrust, Bill Hicks said it best "We should take all the money we spend on war and weapons, and use it to feed the hungry and house the homeless of the world, leaving no-one out, and with the money thats left we could go on to explore space, inner and outer for ever"
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Post by victor55 on Jan 28, 2008 0:30:17 GMT
The Islamic Boogie man has killed in Great Britian 58 people, the IRA killed 3286, and we never had over 3500 new offences introduced to deal with them, and they were a lot harder to see coming than perhaps a person of middle eastern origin, I should know i was in the armed forces during the 70s and saw terrorism up close and personal, and one thing that i believe is that unless we stop being scared and start trying to make the world a better place for everyone, no-one excluded, then we're all fooked every one,we are living in an era where the politics of fear are preached, the kind of politics that promote hatred, fear and distrust, Bill Hicks said it best "We should take all the money we spend on war and weapons, and use it to feed the hungry and house the homeless of the world, leaving no-one out, and with the money thats left we could go on to explore space, inner and outer for ever" That there in lies a problem thinking that the Muslim world thinks like u do-they dont want to feed the world they dont want to explore space they dont want people to think -they want the world bowing to Islam and Islam only And if u were more worried about Bush and Blair than Bin Laden ..let me tell u something I saw terrorism up close myself, REAL UP CLOSE on a beautiful September morning not too long ago but obviously too long for peoples memories, and Bush &Blair had nothin to do with it Its the same pacifism over and over thats gets us f ucked "Surely after Austria"... "Oh their just relocating to start a better life" "its a shower head -honest" An American , a Brit, the Welsh, Aussies, the Scots IRA or FALN it DONT matter- If your not singing the praise of Allah you are an infidel And its a shame that this had to come to this, Margie was right Religon & politics The only army I wanted to be in is the SAHB army, but the dye is cast |
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Post by charity on Jan 28, 2008 13:03:25 GMT
It isn't about pacifism, Victor, and we aren't condoning terrorism in any form (whether it is from Muslims or any other organised religion - I hold very very strong views on the Catholic church's stand on condoms and the resultant genocide in Africa). What we are trying to say is that you cannot blame all Muslims for the actions of subversives and extremists.
When we start to blame a culture, religion or race for the actions of the few all you do is give opportunities to our extremists to poison the minds of the easily influenced.
Terrorism, in fact violence in any form, should be opposed, but not by alienating an entire culture
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Post by caveman on Jan 28, 2008 16:00:19 GMT
Extemism of any kind must be undermined, be it islamic, christian, judeaic, my own view is its ironic that all of these people are willing to lay their lives down for something that doesn't exist and never did, also are we descending into the pit as well, Gauntanamo Bay is a concentration camp without the gas chambers(so far) shame on all of us, both sides of the pond, and i dont wish to offend Vic but don't believe for a second that Bush's administration had nothing to do with 9/11, chek out a film on the net called "Loose Change", but be warned before you watch it, do you want to take the red pill or the blue pill.
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Post by charity on Jan 28, 2008 16:10:48 GMT
kudos caveman!
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Post by victor55 on Jan 29, 2008 1:24:35 GMT
Dont mistake my silence on the matter & lack of response for that of I dont have one ,believe me I do, but its difficult enough debating such issues face to face less here on this forum in a little white box. The little box does not allow for a genuine smile or a wink or a reassuring touch. Or allow me to pour a drink and raise a glass to agree to disagree I said to someone else I believe that we, here, all have the same core values when it comes down to it, I'm as sure of it as I'm sitting here writing this note to those who will read it.And that comforts me.and washes away my outrage. So,- I'm done with it.
Cheers to u all
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Post by craigosm on Jan 29, 2008 9:16:42 GMT
On 9/11, nineteen committed Muslims believed they had a religious mandate to fly planes into buildings and slaughter thousands of innocent people.
The Muslim world erupted with outrage over this horrible act of mass murder. Massive demonstrations were held in nearly every Muslim country and Western city. At these demonstrations, Muslim leaders harshly denounced Islamic terror and shared the many hundreds of verses from the Qur'an that encourage universal brotherhood, peace and tolerance. A slew of fatwas and clerical condemnations against terror soon followed.
Tens of millions of ordinary Muslims also reacted by rallying against violence and demanding that their leaders root out and eliminate the Islamic terrorists and their supporters. These same Muslims and their clerics called for introspection and atonement, accepting the role that the radical elements of their religion played in the attacks, and committing themselves to combating and eradicating the misinterpretation of their religion - the Religion of Peace...
[glow=red,2,300]NOT .....[/glow]
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Post by tubepigeonvictim on Jan 29, 2008 9:20:12 GMT
You and me Grandad would get on well, CD
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Post by Mrs Foster on Jan 29, 2008 12:52:17 GMT
This is all too heavy for me man...  .......Peace ...............  |
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Post by victor55 on Jan 30, 2008 1:01:28 GMT
On 9/11, nineteen committed Muslims believed they had a religious mandate to fly planes into buildings and slaughter thousands of innocent people.
The Muslim world erupted with outrage over this horrible act of mass murder. Massive demonstrations were held in nearly every Muslim country and Western city. At these demonstrations, Muslim leaders harshly denounced Islamic terror and shared the many hundreds of verses from the Qur'an that encourage universal brotherhood, peace and tolerance. A slew of fatwas and clerical condemnations against terror soon followed.
Tens of millions of ordinary Muslims also reacted by rallying against violence and demanding that their leaders root out and eliminate the Islamic terrorists and their supporters. These same Muslims and their clerics called for introspection and atonement, accepting the role that the radical elements of their religion played in the attacks, and committing themselves to combating and eradicating the misinterpretation of their religion - the Religion of Peace...[glow=red,2,300] NOT .....[/glow] Well done brother,well done |
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Post by charity on Jan 30, 2008 9:45:34 GMT
I was hoping this thread would just disappear. It started off as political correctness but it's taken an anti- Islamic slant that I am not comfortable with.
Terrorists are terrorists - they aren't made worse or better by their flags of convenience or belief. The end result is always the same ....dead innocents! BTW....state terrorism is just as bad whether practised on the inhabitants of the country or abroad.
Another thing to remember......One man's terrorism is another man's freedom fight.
Be vigilant, don't be afraid and ffs let this thread go!
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"You're 200 years old this year ... right? You've got every race, creed, colour, nationality and culture that's ever been. You're the biggest, strongest and most powerful nation that's ever been ... 
.......Peace