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Post by Ginnie on May 6, 2010 0:31:41 GMT
Okay, this is serious - I'll be doing more "jamming" and I need some good songs that don't require vocals to be interesting... The lineup in me either on guitar, bass or keyboards - I'm fairly good on bass or rhythm guitar, okay on keyboards, shitty on lead... plus my friend who is okay on rhythm guitar, great on lead guitar and alright drums (he just started playing drums a few months ago) . I found that on Neil Young material that bass is pretty uninteresting so I play guitar on those. Playing Beatles is fun on bass, but my friend doesn't know much Beatles on guitar. Its kind of odd - he can play Hendrix licks easily but had a hard time playing rhythm on I Saw Her Standing There. I can play bass to almost anything he suggests we do but its not quite the same vice versa... In the future, I hope to pick up a mic stand (yeah, my budget is zero dollars right now!) and I'll sing the damn songs myself if I have to. Any suggestions? What I'm getting at is that until we work vocals into the mix I want to have fairly interesting jams...
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Post by C.Cat on May 6, 2010 10:54:44 GMT
Just go mad with some free improv!
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Post by Catherine on May 6, 2010 19:18:47 GMT
C.Cat is right on the money there, Doctor Sir Gin!! Don't necessarily go with with that which you know and love, just PLAY.....
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Post by Ginnie on May 6, 2010 19:57:38 GMT
Probably 50% of a jam is already improv, or at least it sounds that way. ;D
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Post by Catherine on May 6, 2010 19:59:51 GMT
Probably 50% of a jam is already improv, or at least it sounds that way. ;D ;D Just go Gin, go - Doctor Sir Gin and The Improv Show!!
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Post by stuart on May 6, 2010 22:41:12 GMT
Okay, this is serious - I'll be doing more "jamming" and I need some good songs that don't require vocals to be interesting... The lineup in me either on guitar, bass or keyboards - I'm fairly good on bass or rhythm guitar, okay on keyboards, shitty on lead... plus my friend who is okay on rhythm guitar, great on lead guitar and alright drums (he just started playing drums a few months ago) . I found that on Neil Young material that bass is pretty uninteresting so I play guitar on those. Playing Beatles is fun on bass, but my friend doesn't know much Beatles on guitar. Its kind of odd - he can play Hendrix licks easily but had a hard time playing rhythm on I Saw Her Standing There. I can play bass to almost anything he suggests we do but its not quite the same vice versa... In the future, I hope to pick up a mic stand (yeah, my budget is zero dollars right now!) and I'll sing the damn songs myself if I have to. Any suggestions? What I'm getting at is that until we work vocals into the mix I want to have fairly interesting jams... I love playing old classic Neil Young stuff on bass...Like A Hurricane, Hey Hey My My, Down By The River, Cinnamon Girl, etc. There's lots of room to move around and improvise a bit within the structure of those songs because they have room to breathe...you can stretch out a bit without losing the vibe and energy of the songs. In one of my old bands we had a 30 minute version of Down by the River...it's a great jam tune! You might also mess around with some Wishbone Ash, Uriah Heep, and early Grand Funk.
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Post by Ginnie on May 6, 2010 23:42:34 GMT
Okay, this is serious - I'll be doing more "jamming" and I need some good songs that don't require vocals to be interesting... The lineup in me either on guitar, bass or keyboards - I'm fairly good on bass or rhythm guitar, okay on keyboards, shitty on lead... plus my friend who is okay on rhythm guitar, great on lead guitar and alright drums (he just started playing drums a few months ago) . I found that on Neil Young material that bass is pretty uninteresting so I play guitar on those. Playing Beatles is fun on bass, but my friend doesn't know much Beatles on guitar. Its kind of odd - he can play Hendrix licks easily but had a hard time playing rhythm on I Saw Her Standing There. I can play bass to almost anything he suggests we do but its not quite the same vice versa... In the future, I hope to pick up a mic stand (yeah, my budget is zero dollars right now!) and I'll sing the damn songs myself if I have to. Any suggestions? What I'm getting at is that until we work vocals into the mix I want to have fairly interesting jams... I love playing old classic Neil Young stuff on bass...Like A Hurricane, Hey Hey My My, Down By The River, Cinnamon Girl, etc. There's lots of room to move around and improvise a bit within the structure of those songs because they have room to breathe...you can stretch out a bit without losing the vibe and energy of the songs. In one of my old bands we had a 30 minute version of Down by the River...it's a great jam tune! You might also mess around with some Wishbone Ash, Uriah Heep, and early Grand Funk. LOL Those four Neil Young songs I love playin' on guitar - real loud like! I'll add Rockin' In the Free World, Sedan Delivery, Don't Cry No Tears, Hey Hey My My, Bite the Bullet, When You Can Dance You Can Really Love, On Broadway, Ohio and Southern Man. On acoustic I play Heart of Gold, Old Man, Love Is A Rose, Tell Me Why, Don't Let It Bring You Down, Cripple Creek Ferry, Comes A Time, Sugar Mountain, I Am A Child, Needle and the Damage Done, The Loner... On Piano I play After the Goldrush, Till the Morning Comes, Words, Only Love Can Break Your Heart.... Jesus, I didn't realize I knew so much of Neil's stuff. I guess that's why I have thirty of his albums... ;D I just don't find the basswork in his music that memorable or interesting. Playing bass even to Down by the River gets boring to me, but I love playing the guitar to it. On the other hand, playing bass to lets say, Let Me Roll It by Paul McCartney I find very satisfying - he's got such a flair for good, flowing bass lines. Early Grand Funk - that would be good - I love their bass work.
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Post by trench on May 7, 2010 15:54:46 GMT
Hey Ginnie , Try Hawkwinds Space ritual live for jammin solid Lemmy style basslines,play it from start to finish using headphones,your brain will be fried.
Robespieres velvet basement by the Jacobites has some great songs to stretch your guitar to,very simple 3 chord wonders ,but plenty of scope for freeplayin'
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Post by platterpete on May 8, 2010 7:39:02 GMT
I agree about the Wishbone Ash songs, try 'Vas Dis' off the Pilgrimage album or on a softer note 'Leaf and Stream' or try some from the New England album. I dare you to try FUBB from There's the Rub.
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Post by Ginnie on May 9, 2010 16:51:04 GMT
Well I had a jam Friday night with mixed results. Seems the drummer/guitar player has a bit of a difficulty keeping beat while drumming. I 'm not sure how he can get off track like that as you'd think that anyone wanting to play drums would be able to keep a steady beat. Very disconcerting, although I know he's just learning. I know I've been playing for 35 years but I'm hardly a pro so I don't think I'm being too picky. So seeing that the beat was all over the place, I took C.Cat's advice and spent some time improvising as that worked better in this instance. As for the songs that have been recommended - I'm having difficulty right now even getting songs done that we're both familiar with. I'm wishing that he would take time to listen to "Width of A Circle", I like playing that...
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